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An Interview with Todd Rundgren
Thinking man’s rocker releases the guitar-oriented album Arena

The casual radio listener knows Todd Rundgren from his string of hits in the 1970s and 1980s including “Bang on the Drum All Day,” “I Saw the Light,” “Hello, It’s Me,” “Can We Still Be Friends” and “It Wouldn’t Have Made Any Difference.”


As a solo artist and with the bands Nazz, Utopia and The New Cars, musician Todd Rundgren has established himself as one of the leading voices of American music over the past four decades. His latest album, the guitar-oriented Arena, was released this week.
His longtime fans know that as good as those songs are, they barely scratch the surface of Rundgren’s four decades worth of musical creativity. A sonic chameleon who has recorded albums of soul, psychedelic rock and even Caribbean music, Rundgren’s musical interests are all over the map.

In the music business, Rundgren is also a well-respected producer who has utilized the studio setting to get the best out of musicians and their instruments. As a result he produced many career highpoint albums such as Meatloaf’s Bat Out of Hell, The Tubes’ Remote Control, The Band’s Stage Fright and XTC’s Skylarking, to name but a few.

Rundgren is also a keen observer of politics and the national culture, subjects that pop up repeatedly in his works. In the eighties his band Utopia produced a scathing indictment of the Reagan era titled Swing to the Right, and his 2004 album Liars scolded the American public for not asking more questions before we entered the War in Iraq.

Those observations are front and center in Rundgren’s latest album Arena. A return to the musician’s guitar-oriented work of the seventies, Arena is designed to inspire listeners to decide on a course of action and take it.

The Mountain Times caught up with Todd Rundgren on the eve of Arena’s release this week and his lengthy subsequent tour (one that will bring him to Asheville on October 15).

Here is the first of a two-part interview with him:

The Mountain Times: Most fans would associate you with your Philadelphia roots or with your studio in Bearsville, New York. How long have you lived in Hawaii?

Todd Rundgren: We’ve been here for about 13 years.

MT: You have a new album out and a new tour of the states. Who are you playing with?

TR: It’s a quorum of the regular guys along with a new bass player. Jesse Gress is playing guitar, Prairie Prince is playing drums, Kasim Sultan, who was playing bass, is moving over to play guitar and some keyboards. And playing bass is Rachel Haden who is not particularly well known but is becoming better known through her work with the band.

MT: Is she related to jazz bassist Charlie Haden?

TR: Yes, she is. She is one of his triplet daughters. She has two sisters who are also in show business. They just did a thing in New York as part of a larger folk festival. The whole family gets together and plays sometimes. I haven’t heard it in person yet but I’ve heard it on record. It’s kind of like American roots music with lots of mandolin and fiddle and three-part vocal harmonies.

MT: How did the guitar-oriented album Arena come about?

TR: I was out on the road with the New Cars and we had a schedule that was going to take us out for about a year-and-a-half. And right at the beginning, Elliot Easton, our guitar player, broke his collarbone. Suddenly there was no tour of any kind so I had to quickly put something together so I wouldn’t be just sitting around all summer. So I put together a guitar quartet and toured across Canada. We did a ten-day tour, and the enthusiasm from the fans was so great that we continued to do it through the states. It was essentially me and Jesse and Prairie and Kasim playing a lot of the material that people remember from the Utopia days and around that era.

ia:Back then, even though we were never an arena rock band, we often found ourselves in the arena context. So we know a little something about the approach. But I’d never concentrated on something that would work in an arena or that would resemble, you know, that style of music. So I thought, what the hell. I’ve got some new ground to plumb even though it’s an older genre. Timeliness doesn’t necessarily stop me.

MT: Plenty of your older songs such as “Black and White,” “Death of Rock and Roll” and “Heavy Metal Kids” kind of fit into that electric guitar arena genre, don’t you think?

TR: Yeah. I was a little bit surprised, pleasantly so, that the fans seem to be longing more and more for the lead guitar playing front man as opposed to me as a R&B singer or a rhythm guitar player in another band like the New Cars. I think that may have been the root of the response, and as time went on and as the enthusiasm continued to wax, that was when I realized that the next record that I was going to make would probably be very much focused on the guitar.

MT: Do you consider Arena to be a concept album in the way all the songs on Liars are connected?

TR: It is thematic, in the same way that Liars is thematic. And it could be seen to have connections to current events. But as with Liars, the approach that I take when I’m writing lyrics is that you start inside and work your way outside. You don’t start off by railing at the president before you’ve had a good bit of self-examination first. In that particular instance, people’s willingness to fool themselves was a lot of the problem. It wasn’t the fact that the leadership was comprised of such blatant liars, it was the fact that everyone else devalued the truth so much that they were willing to just swallow whole all of this preposterousness. And here we are down the line a little bit and that’s not likely going to be the milieu in the future. It would be a tough bar for other people to meet in terms of dishonesty.

So the problem at this point is, and the subject matter of this new record is, courage and cowardice. In that sense, it’s more about action than rumination. In the sense of something like Liars, you just determine that, “Oh wow, I’ve been thoughtlessly dishonest in all these things.” And you stop doing something. But the end result of the new message is for you to start doing something. And that particular thing is directed mostly at men. A lot of it is driven by the terrible examples we’ve had by male behavior in the last eight years. I don’t want myself, or people of my gender, to get the mistaken impression that the evilness and dishonesty and cowardice is somebody else’s fault. We got these guys into office in the first place. That’s not the way we want to do business. It looks like a formula for success: to just lie your ass off irresponsibly. But at this particular point in time we’ve got problems that are so great and looming that we need that more traditional leadership and self-sacrifice. We need the stuff that we associate with our heroes, as opposed to the lying and the cowardice and perversion and hypocrisy.

Editor’s note: Part two of The Mountain Times’ interview with Todd Rundgren will run in the October 9th edition. Rundgren and his band will perform at the Orange Peel in Asheville on October 15.





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